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Thursday, May 17, 2012

WHAT?! NOOOOOOOOO!

Okay...before I type out the notes I was taking while watching the season finle of The Mentalist...I just have to get this out of my system real quick


*deep breath* NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Can I just say...I don't believe that. Nope, nope. The writers are pulling one over on me. Curse them. No...I still...I just want my theory to be right. I guess I'll just have to wait and see how the rest of the show plays out. Maybe next fall will be the final season of The Mentalist.
Okay, tantrum over, here are the notes I took. They are very scattered as I just wrote random thoughts while watching the episode, but hey, it works.


Here we go...


From the start I'm suspicious of Jane's behavior. He could be breaking or he could just be acting like he is breaking. I think the latter is more likely.


He punched that cop on purpose.


Six months is a good amount of time to establish a cover. He wants to draw Red John out, turning the tables on him.


This can't end well. Red John would kill this girl just for falling in love with Jane. Also, Lisbon walking alone at night...she's crazy.


The girl...I think she might be a trick. Yep...literally 5 seconds after writing that she admits that she is a friend of Red John's. Saw that one coming ha ha.


Does Lisbon know Red John? Nah.


I knew it! He IS faking his breakdown.


Luther is talking about ane and thinking of doing a little outreach (which is EXACTLY what Red John is doing). Lisbon's words surprise him when she says Jane needs to be left alone.


Red John wants Teresa Lisbon's dead body. Interesting when combined with his encounter with Lisbon before.


Luther is surprised to see Jane when he leaves the elevator. I think Jane is going to fake Lisbon's death.


"Goo luck, Teresa. Love you." :)


It's a plan, all of it is. Rigsby is not dead, that's the John Doe.


Luther is suspicious of the whole thing. That FBI lady is back too. I don't trust her. She is going to mess things up somehow. She is going to go to Luther with this and that can't be good.


Shoot...they are getting arrested.


Red John has a good friend in the FBI. Found out when they did.


It's a decoy (the car) he won't be in there.


OH. MY. GOSH!


Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Curse them. I wanted it to be him so bad. I still want to think it's him, like he's not really dead. Why didn't he struggle more, try to warn Jane? I really hope/want to believe we haven't seen the last of Luther Wainright. That seemed too...I don't know, rushed and weird. They didn't lead up to it at all, it was just suddenly Luther in the car bleeding. Nothing to suggest how they got a hold of him etc. If Luther isn't Red John he is still involved somehow and probably still alive...but I still really really really really want him to be Red John. Nothing will satisfy me after my brilliant theory. I am so disappointed right now. UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGH. Well...we'll just wait and see. I hope they don't make me wait a whole entire other season for new revelations (big ones). Dumb writers. :/ You know what...you know what...I'm writing the rest of the episodes for them and they will ALL be about Red John. Yep...it's a plan.
Friday, May 11, 2012

Dear old Red John


I am now sitting down at my computer to view tonight's episode of The Mentalist. The promo for it has shown a lot of promise for more Red John clues seeing as Patrick will, once again, be going up against his nemesis. I am going to write this post as I am watching the episode so spoiler alert for anyone who has not seen it yet. Ready for excitement? Ready for Red John? Alright...lets begin. :)

jane and haleyOkay, this is just at the very start and it's a small thing, but the little girl in the grave yard feels like a small clue to me. Children can be very trusting but, at her age, they also know not to talk to strangers or get in their cars so they can bring them to graveyards. It would make a lot of sense, however, if the girl trusted him because he was a cop. Children know to trust policemen and authority figures (even if that's not always the best thing for them...especially when that authority figure is a serial killer in disguise).
Okay, pausing again (5 seconds later). Since when does Luther show up to a crime scene? He also says that "Red John or someone claiming to be Red John" brought the girl to the grave yard. If he goes over to the girl and she doesn't recognize Luther then I would say it was the later. Red John has a lot of followers to hide behind. Jane upsets Wainright when he hypnotizes the girl so she won't remember and then threatens him to not question her. He might be mad that Jane is acting in a way not according to his plan or he's just playing the part.

So after Jane burns the Red John files, Wainright and Lisbon are talking out in the hall. He says he thinks it was a cry for help and he just wants to "find out what the issue is." I don't have much on that but I feel like it could be important. They are both talking to Jane now so I'll resume and get back to you on that one. Okay, so Jane says "He's [Red John] right. It's time to give up." and Luther says "Seriously?" Not sure why but him responding like that seems weird for some reason, like he's digging. I think Jane just wants to throw out the idea that he is off the scent to see what Red John does. As he is saying all this, Luther is standing quiet in the background, watching him carefully. Of course it could just be a concerned boss, or it could be Red John trying to work out what Patrick's game is.

Okay so we don't see Wainright again until after the investigation for this episode has ended. Lisbon is taking Jane there now so maybe there will be some more tidbits to add before this post comes to an end along with the episode. Jane: "Yes, I crossed the line. I had to in order to get Marks. If you don't get the bad guy then what's the point of all this." Luther: he doesn't say anything but there is an interesting and confusing look on his face that I can't translate at this moment. Then, when Lisbon suggests he take a time out, Luther suspends him and then angrily says that he will personally recommend that he not ever be allowed back as a consultant. This is interesting to me. Luther is reacting strangely. It's almost as if Red John wants to take away the one thing Jane would keep in his life so that he is forced to dwell on him again. Then when Jane insults him, he gets so angry he runs at Jane, ready to attack him. That kind of anger in a man like Luther Wainright is either acted out for the benefit of the unsuspecting people around him...or it's based off of more than a few insults and one bad move on Jane's part. There is something far deeper going on inside that man's mind.

I'm not sure what Jane being fired will bring and I was hoping there was going to be a lot more Red John stuff in this episode than there was, but it still told me a lot. I was suspicious of Luther from the start but as we have come along, I've gotten even more so. He is present in episodes and moments that he isn't necessarily needed in and now this sudden attention to him and his anger at Jane (especially since he has been patientand accepting of Jane's behavior up until now)...the writers want him in there more than many of the other bosses have ever been. Luther is an important piece to the Red John puzzle and I am still inclined to believe that he is THE MOST important piece.

I'm pulling this from the Mentalist wiki because I found it interesting and it ties into this episode in particular: "He has fascination with Jane -- to the point where he would risk getting caught to see what Jane will do. Red John is a major narcissist and is extremely angered by people acting like they know him, even more so by those who lie about him, which was clearly shown when he killed Jane's w Jane was insulting him, acting like he knew him by calling him a "mama's boy" etc. That is one of the things that angers Red John. As for the other part, the idea of risking getting caught to see Jane's reactions, that is something that made me suspect that Red John would stop using pawns and move into the game himself (one of the reasons I find that Luther would be an excellent candidate for Red John).

Adding more from the wiki: "His known accomplices have mostly been closet psychopaths who are able to appear completely normal, but all have some sort of criminal past. This to the point that Jane even refers to John's accomplishes as "Disciples". Once again, Luther's past in psychology kicks in as well as his connections to the criminal world through law enforcement. He is very good at convincing people to do what he wants them to...to trust him.

"Red John is also extremely intelligent (again like Jane), as seen from his being able to hack into theCBIcomputers and watch the agents' actions for quite some time without being detected. He can also set up phony companies and bank accounts to keep his identity a secret. Finally, Red John is a master manipulator, which is evident in his ability to get people to trust him (as seen with his accomplices)." Luther is a smart young man and he has the proper training and connections to accomplish all these things whilst remaining undetected. 

If you want to read more from Red John's entry on the wiki, go here: http://thementalist.wikia.com/wiki/Red_John

Until the next update, dream of Red John. :)

*If you don't yet know what my theory is and you want to know, the following are the few posts I have made so far involving this theory. It's ordered from the most recent post to the first post (the actual theory).

Menalist theory update (a small one)

Red John theory updates galore!

Red John theory update

Patrick Jane, you are a clever little devil aren't you?

No new Mentalist theory news

Mentalist theory update

O_O (the theory)
Thursday, February 2, 2012

Red John theory - updates galore

This update was written as I watched the show (I paused it in order to write thoughts before continuing onward) so some thoughts develop and build on each other as I go and some bits may seem a bit choppy but I tried to clean them up a bit and make them easier to read. Here we go.

Red John theory update 2/2/2012

 The fact that agent Darcy is sitting in Wainwright's, office telling him that she is going to keep investigating The Panzer Murder (Red John) is enough to make me suspicious. I have a good bad feeling about this situation. :) He seems calm, cool, and complying but also a bit nervous. Something is going to happen. Red John is going to know because she is telling him straight out. This should be a fun game for him. Also the fact that they have to show this scene of her telling Wainright (when we don't see him often anyway) brings more suspicion on him. They had to invent a seminar he was going to teach (that Lisbon was going to attend) so they could have an easier transfer from Pattrick's call to get Lisbon out of the seminar to Wainright and his meeting with Darcy.

Wainwright is putting together all the Red John files that are available and he is being super secretive (he shuts the blinds). As he signs it over to the guy who is to hand it over to the FBI agent he says: “I want you to listen to me very closely. This is a highly sensitive issue. You are not to talk to anybody about this. Do you understand? No one.” The man replies: “Yes sir, whatever you say.” Wainright then goes on to say: “Okay if somebody comes looking for the Red John case files or asks where they've gone, you are to inform me immediatley. I cannot express enough the importance that this remain secret.” 

Agent Lisbon walks in when he finishes his sentence and he starts acting nervous. He then gets short with her and the man (who she is chatting with), cuts off their conversation and says “okay, that's enough, back to work.” He then looks angrily at Lisbon as the guy leaves. “Did I call for you?” She explains how she wanted to appologize for missing the seminar earlier. He ignores that and then says: “Would it be too much to ask you to schedule a regular meeting rather than barging in here like this?” 

Luther is very much on edge. He then has to calm himself down and act personable again as he asks her how the case is going and says he'd like to catch up on it. Again, that look on his face as she leaves...I don't know, it seems to say that he knows he let his temper slip and he's wondering how this will play out later. Then he walks over to the pile of boxes with all the evidence and puts his hand on it as the screen goes to black. 

Note: Why does he need 45 minutes before he goes to hear about/catch up on their case). What if he took something from the case files?

Luther then goes and acts interested in their case but once he gets a call, he leaves them too it and runs off. It's Agent Darcy (the caller). She says she got the files and asks if he told “his people" about it and he says: “No, I saw no need.” So the FBI didn't say not to tell anyone...he just chose not to. He is very grave, serious, and distracted right now. He seems to have been just acting like he wanted to be caught up with the case to distract Lisbon from his anger earlier. Honestly this could all just be their boss trying to keep them out of trouble (as he knows what Red John does to Jane) but I don't think that's it. He doesn't seem all that surprised and adamant against the fact that Red John could be alive and that he killed Panzer.

Darcy goes to talk to the M.E. at the morgue where Jane brought the blind girl to see if the guy he killed was Red John. He tells her the visit was odd as the girl was blind. She was confused by this.They keep making a big deal of not spreading the word (as she tells the M.E. not to tell anyone and he complies) which means that the word is going to spread (or already has) to Red John. Red John is going to know which will tell us, yet again, that he has connections and that he is very very close to this case. In my mind, that means that dear old Wainwright, as I felt at the very end of his first episode/appearance on this show, is Red John.

Susan Darcy goes to talk to Roselyn Harker (the blind girl). Roselyn was checking to find out if the man was her friend Roy. Darcy now knows the dead guy wasn't Roy.

Roselyn calls Jane and tells him that Roy came to see her. Roy is freaking at her house when she calls! (sorry...got a tad excited) Roselyn says he says to tell him, and the Darcy woman, that this was all a mistake and that “he's going to clear it all up.” His hands are young, you can't see his face or much of his build, as he sits in the high backed chair where you can't really see even his hair, but you can see his hands. They are young, so he's not an old man though I could already tell that from a much earlier episode where, though he disguised it, you could hear youth in his voice. He doesn't speak, of course, as he sits in the chair. If Jane doesn't know him why would he not speak (or disguise his voice like last time)? He has a familiar voice to hide from Jane. Also, the fact that he only mentions Darcy and not Jane's boss (when he mentions that he wants Jane and the Darcy girl to know he is going to clear things up) that brings more suspicion to Wainwright.

Jane went to go and get the FBI (after the call) and they go to the house. Roy left as soon as he found out Jane was coming, he isn't there. But, there's blood leaking out from under one of the doors. The morgue attendant is dead in the closet. Oh my my my only a few people would know about this, about the morgue visit and the fact that the guy remembered it. >:) This is getting juicy. 

Remember that feeling I mentioned in the post when I first established this theory (the feeling I got when I just suddenly knew it was Luther)? That feeling is back. The last few episodes haven't had much Red John evidence nor have they really shown Wainwright very much (which is odd cause they tend to usually show the bosses a lot more, or at least it seems like they did but maybe not). Because of this, I've felt rather normal watching the shows and no excitement over my theory. This episode re-ignited the fire. I am as sure as ever that Luther is Red John.


Too bad...he's kind of cute (which actually makes the idea of him being Red John all the more fun for some reason).

*****

If you don't yet know what my theory is and you want to know, the following are the few posts I have made so far involving this theory. It's ordered from the most recent post to the first post (the actual theory).

Red John theory update

Patrick Jane, you are a clever little devil aren't you?

No new Mentalist theory news

Mentalist theory update

O_O (the theory)
Thursday, January 12, 2012

Red John theory update

Alrighty, new update. It is a very small one but an update none the less.

In tonight's episode of The Mentalist, there is a development involving Red John and an FBI agent looking into the case of James Panzer who appears to have been killed by a Red John copycat (though we know it's the real Red John). The CBI is sent a stalking video of the FBI woman and Jane knows it is Red John playing with him. The clue I find in this one is that the FBI agent comes asking Jane and the CBI about James Panzer and Red John and that very night this video and message from someone (someone Jane knows is Red John) is sent. Obviously it is someone with eyes and ears within law enforcement (more than likely the CBI) or they would not have known about the FBI woman's involvement so quickly. Granted she has spoken to other agencies (like the one where Lisbon's old partner works) but it is still all within law enforcement. Even if he did find out through other sources, the fact that he waited until the FBI agent came to talk to Jane about it (before stalking her and playing with him) means he knew exactly what day she had come to see Jane. This tells me that my theory still stands strong.

Of course Jane had to do some questionable things to get the FBI agent to close the case without revealing Red John's existance and Red John is, no doubt, going to have something in store for Jane for taking the fun he was going to have messing with him and the FBI woman so there will be plenty more to glean from the coming episodes. Looking forward to some more evidence and revelations about this illusive and crafty killer.

If you don't yet know what my theory is and you want to know, the following are the few posts I have made so far involving this theory. It's ordered from the most recent post to the first post (the actual theory).


Patrick Jane, you are a clever little devil aren't you?

No new Mentalist theory news

Mentalist theory update

O_O (the theory)
Thursday, November 3, 2011

Patrick Jane, you are a clever little devil aren't you?

Just so you know...there are spoilers from tonight's episode of The Mentalist in this post so do not read any further until you have watched it.

Though there isn't much to report on my Luther=Red John theory as of yet (though the fact that Red John found James Panzer so quickly points to, once again, connections in the CBI and FBI), but I would like to note that bit of genius that Pattrick used to get James (the San Joaquin Killer) off the streets. Since no one could touch him or get evidence on him, Jane prodded at his one weakness, his pride. During the interview he kept trying to put down James' high view of the killer and saying he was not comparable to Red John. His pride hurt, James said some things about Red John that Jane knew (and that I knew he knew) would draw out Red John for the kill.

Jane accomplished two things with this bit of genius. One, he got the San Joaquin Killer off of the streets. Two, Red John is back in the game. This is getting exciting. :)

Thursday, October 13, 2011

O_O

Have you ever had one of those "OH MY GOSH I KNOW WHO THE BAD GUY IS!" moments while watching your favorite show? I don't just mean the ones that get proved right or wrong within the hour of the episode, but the long term "Ah, ha" moments that seem to stem from practically nothing, a word, a glance, a tone. I get those a lot. In fact I believe I just posted one last night after my guess about that scene in Psych turned out to be true.

For some reason I just have this innate ability to really understand a story and it's characters and where they are going. Whether it's knowing without a doubt that Snape was a good guy and no traitor, or seeing that the good guy was not who he appeared to be miles before everyone else, I can usually spot it. I'm not gloating about it, it's just how I am. There have been those few moments when I have been wrong and I love it all the more. When I am right, which is often (and that fact tends to annoy my family because I always have to make my guesses out loud due to the fear that no one will believe that I knew it when it turns out to be true), I get a sense of validation that I am good at this. When I am wrong, which does happen, I find myself feeling happy as well. I like when a writer can twist me around because I want to be that writer. I want to surprise those readers and viewers out there who are as observant as me. That being said, I also like it when someone can guess where I am going because then I know that I am giving them that validation. In short, I love it whether I am wrong or right...I do, however, tend to like being right more.

Now, to the purpose of this post. Tonight I had one of those "Ah ha" moments. If you watch The Mentalist and you don't want my guesses to skew your own view of the show or to give anything away (in case I am right) then you may just want to stop reading now because I think I know who Red John is.

Let me start with the moment that triggered this as it was small, almost inconsequential (and for all I know the writers put it in there on purpose so that someone like me would pick up on that and head in the wrong direction with their theories...they may want to surprise me later by showing me that I'm wrong, but I feel like I am right). The moment was so small you could almost call it a micro expression (I've been watching too much Lie To Me lately).It was at the end of tonight's episode, "Ring Around the Rosie," when Jane is talking to their new (very young and good looking) boss. For most of the episode my mind was set on figuring out where I'd seen the guest star/bad guy in before but once I'd figured that out (he was Dexter's brother), my mind was freed up to see other things.

Jane was sitting, a large grin on his face, as the boss (I believe his name was Luther) was talking about his observations on Jane, comparing him to a personality/behavioral test (Psycopathy test I think is what it's called) they had secretly managed to take on their bad guy earlier in the episode. When he is done is tells Jane: "Congratulations Jane, according to the score you are a clinical psychopath." They seem to be friendly during this exchange and then Luther says, "Now I know what I'm dealing with, so I'll adjust accordingly." He has an odd sort of smile (it barely reaches his eyes) when he says this and at first I didn't think anything of it, but then he turns and leaves and as he passes Lisbon, his back to both of them, there is this really odd look on his face. I can't quite explain it. It could be construed as his own emotions kind of mixed up in Jane, like he's not so sure how working with him will go but he's kind of liking him at the same time...but I don't think that's it. Maybe it's because I've been watching too much Lie To Me lately and I'm reading too much into it, but I feel like that look on his face along with the look he had when saying "I'll adjust accordingly" is the look you would find on a cat who has just fooled a mouse into thinking he is not a cat or a wolf who has cleverly disguised himself in sheep's clothing. He walks with a strange, almost triumphant confidence down the hall too which struck me as odd. Then the fact that Jane then says to Lisbon "I like our new boss, I think we'll work very well together." struck me as further proof. Though it is meant to rid me of doubt about the new boss and make me trust him and like him as Jane does, I can't quite believe it. Knowing how stories go, how writers are, and how this show and this type of show is...I think Jane will find that he is becoming friends with the very man he wishes to kill. Take the phrase Luther spoke earlier and the expressions that screamed at me (in fact the revelation I had made my stomach do flips, I felt really strongly that it was true and I hope it is because it is EXACTLY what I would have done as a writer with this story) and put it in the context of Luther as Red John. "Now I know what I'm dealing with, so I'll adjust accordingly." I am not so sure he was talking about work.


What I am saying here, is I think Luther is Red John. I know my evidence is small and, again, inconsequential, but for some reason that look, that look in the hallway...it said it all. That one look made me look back at his words to Jane, at his face. I feel it, I feel the story moving in that direction. I don't know if I'm right, but I feel convinced of it now. If I were to choose anyone to be Red John at this moment in the show, it would be him. It's the perfect way to compromise Jane, to rid him of his arrogance, to make him feel helpless and tricked when he finally does find out who Red John really is. The writers have set this up perfectly and the story could be great and gut wrenching. Red John isn't some stranger he has never met before like the man he killed in the last episode of season 3. When he finally is revealed, Red John will be someone Jane knows, someone he never expected. Red John will have weaved his way into Jane's life so that by the time he reveals himself...Jane will be trapped so tight that breaking free will become far more painful than it ever would have been before. The worst enemy often turns out to be the best friend. He has already used others to try and get into Jane's life...now Red John will step up and do things himself. The game has changed, most of the world thinks he is dead aside from Jane. Now he must step it up and get involved personally. This is how it works, it's how a really good story must unfold. Though other candidates may show up later in the season, I am inclined to think he will be there early on, in fact that he is there now. I am going to stick with this theory until something comes up to prove otherwise (though I will always evaluate all "proof" carefully before changing  my theory) but I am not sure that I can be convinced otherwise. This is my theory.

Luther is Red John.


P.S. I went back to when he first meets Jane in the episode and he seems to be so eager which could be entirely innocent but I don't know. He also give a really odd laugh with a very very knowing smile on his face when Jane, in response to Luther saying he was still making his way through Pattrick's file as it was heavier reading, says: "Do me a favor and don't tell me how it ends." Then there is the part where he lets Jane have his way with this idea/plan of his but not Lisbon. Again, could be innocent but he could also be doing it just to see how Jane works when he is given the slack to do so. He wants to get to know Jane and may be using him even as it appears that Pattrick uses Luther to get the results (arrest) at the end of the case. Oh ho ho (sorry, re-watching bits and pieces of the episode and writing this as I do so) and Luther was the one who gave Rigsby the questions (the Psych ones he evaluated Jane with) to use on the suspect...interesting. Then, at the end, he is sitting all creepily in Jane's spot on the couch, waiting for him basically. And that whole thing where he says that the more time spent with the subject you are reviewing (with that test thing) the more accurate the results...Red John has spent a lot of time with Jane. >:) Anyway, I'll have to look for more stuff in coming episodes. This should be fun. :) If I'm totally wrong, at least I'll know that I could have twisted this story this way easily....but I'm not wrong. ;)

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